[CTPP] educational attainment by place of work

[Alan Pisarski]

There seems to be a very sound relationship between rising income and rising
trip length to work.  This almost seems incongruous assuming that the higher
income person would presumably be able to afford to live closer by, if they
chose.  There are lots of reasons for this. If higher income workers can
live anywhere they want then they can optimized a whole array of things not
just distance to work.  Also high income jobs tend to be specialized and
concentrated in contrast to working at starbucks where the closest one is 5
minutes away and there is zero reward for working at any other starbucks
farther away.   

Alan E. Pisarski
6501 Waterway Drive 
Falls Church Va. 22044
703 941-4257
alanpisarski at alanpisarski.com

-----Original Message-----
From: ctpp-news-bounces at chrispy.net [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces at chrispy.net]
On Behalf Of Ed Christopher
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:26 AM
To: ctpp-news at chrispy.net
Subject: Re: [CTPP] educational attainment by place of work

You are right and I also forgot that with PUMS you get the PUMA of 
residence but on the work side it is the county of work.

Frank Lenk wrote:
> Ed - 
> 
> Actually, I tried PUMS first. The problem is the 100,000 population size
> criterion apparently must hold for workers as well as residents. While
> each PUMA is designed to have at least 100,000 residents, they are not
> designed to have also 100,000 workers.  Consequently, the Census Bureau
> aggregates PUMAS when it reports PUMA of work. PUMAs are already the
> largest possible usable size for this analysis.  Aggregates of PUMAs
> make the areas too large to infer any kind of influence of space/place
> on income, at least in my estimation.    
> 
> Frank
> 
> Frank Lenk
> Director of Research Services
> Mid-America Regional Council
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ctpp-news-bounces at chrispy.net
> [mailto:ctpp-news-bounces at chrispy.net] On Behalf Of Ed Christopher
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:16 PM
> To: ctpp-news at chrispy.net
> Subject: Re: [CTPP] educational attainment by place of work
> 
> Frank--good catch.  Not only are there no Part 2 (workplace) tables on 
> educational attainment there are not any Part 1 educational attainment 
> tables either.  I just looked at the draft tables we have been talking 
> about for ACS and educational attainment was not there.  I will 
> certainly bring it up but make sure to keep it on your mind the next 
> time we are talking about table content.
> 
> As far as your current issue, will PUMs help? The geography is really 
> big (100,000 people) but it might help.
> 
> Frank Lenk wrote:
>> We are trying to understand the relationship between the location of
>> well-paying jobs and resident income. In particular, our urban core
> has
>> the largest concentration of job, a large fraction of which are
>> well-paid, while surrounding the job centers are areas that have high
>> concentration of poverty, especially minority poverty. We suspect this
>> has something to do with a skills mismatch between the jobs and the
>> residents, which we can test for those who are employed by looking at
>> occupation of workers vs occupation of residents.  But if we wanted to
>> expand our examination of the skill mismatch to the unemployed by
>> looking at, say, educational attainment of the residents vs. the
>> workers, we find we cannot because there is no data on educational
>> attainment by place of work in the 2000 CTPP.  
>>
>> Might this be remedied in the 2010 CTPP?
>>
>> Frank Lenk
>> Director of Research Services
>> Mid-America Regional Council
>> 600 Broadway, Suite 200
>> Kansas City, MO 64105
>> www.marc.org
>> 816.474.4240
>> flenk at marc.org
>> 816.701.8237
>>
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